Beth Sarim

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  Family shares link: last of the last days

  by Gorb in

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  gorby's family is sharing a link with a jw.org video, that would indicate that the end of the end has started.. listen to the gb, they app.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=o&lank=pub-jwb-100_2_video.

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  Beth Sarim

  "Old light from 2 years ago. That's why they are having "be patient" theme for this year's convention "

  And,,it is now 17 years on since the 2006 "Deliverance at Hand" Convention theme.
  
  
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  Family shares link: last of the last days

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  gorby's family is sharing a link with a jw.org video, that would indicate that the end of the end has started.. listen to the gb, they app.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=share&wtlocale=o&lank=pub-jwb-100_2_video.

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  Beth Sarim

  You hear rank and file repeatedly claim 'we have entered the GT'.

  Now, here lies the problem should GB pronounce such a claim.

  They can never go back, that should the GB claim ,, ''the beginning of the GT'' can only happen....and happen one time only. There is no going back. Ever!!

  That's where I think the Borg is stuck. They've often proclaimed ''from a message of warning'' to a '''message of judgement''. The Borg is stuck in that they can't go to a message of ''judgement''. They can't go back.
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  Does Jehovah have a visible organization?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
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  why do jehovah’s witnesses say they are god’s organization so matter of factly as though such an audacious claim is an undisputable fact?

  here is how one person sees this claim.. "the entire jehovah’s witness religion is founded on unsubstantiated hubristic claims which are continually repeated until they are assumed by adherents to be a proven fact.. never is this more evident than when the beliefs of a jehovah’s witness are successfully challenged.

  the more compelling the evidence against them, the more they resort to repeating their convictions with a sense of insistence, as if they are chanting a mantra.. confirmation bias is prevalent in all religious ideologies, but particularly with jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Beth Sarim

  A large majority of JW's were baptized under the premise of the 1914 generation theology.

  Only to have that debunked in the mid-1990's to a new understand of 'generation'. Those who were 'dunked' before the 1995 generation change it seems the Borg was just ''hmf, too bad just accept it or else''
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  things shelved, not looked into because of group think

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here are some things i never really believed the jw taught...i just didn't really examine it closely.

  i shelved it, so to speak, thinking no one is perfect and they know more than me...if i ever thought about it at all.. i never believed that only jws would be spared at armageddon.

  i never believed the where in james, you went to the elders to confess being spiritually sick-always thought that referred to a real illness.

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  Beth Sarim

  Yes that "conditional'' love fades rather quick when you start not showing-up or participating in FS or alike.

  As born-ins, it really sucks absorbing it all in from birth trusting adults whom you believe have your best interest. You really have no choice,,,,trying to explain things to peers and and schoolmates which you can't explain because they're forced on you.
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  Does Jehovah have a visible organization?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do jehovah’s witnesses say they are god’s organization so matter of factly as though such an audacious claim is an undisputable fact?

  here is how one person sees this claim.. "the entire jehovah’s witness religion is founded on unsubstantiated hubristic claims which are continually repeated until they are assumed by adherents to be a proven fact.. never is this more evident than when the beliefs of a jehovah’s witness are successfully challenged.

  the more compelling the evidence against them, the more they resort to repeating their convictions with a sense of insistence, as if they are chanting a mantra.. confirmation bias is prevalent in all religious ideologies, but particularly with jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Beth Sarim

  LongHair

  'I would be up the creek without a paddle if I hadn’t trusted my own instincts!'

  You wouldn't be 'spiritual' enough if you trusted your own instincts and would never have gotten invited anywhere.

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  KUDOs to you and others and,,, hats off to you for following your gut instincts and looking after 'you' first!!!! And not listening to peer pressure from others in the Borg and their 'toxic' influence.

  Full marks!!
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  No more public WT & Awake?

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.

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  Beth Sarim

  'It is expensive to produce and ship magazines, and they do not produce donations or new members.'

  The Borg's business model has to reinvent itself to survive with the times and the changing demographic.
  
  
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  Does Jehovah have a visible organization?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why do jehovah’s witnesses say they are god’s organization so matter of factly as though such an audacious claim is an undisputable fact?

  here is how one person sees this claim.. "the entire jehovah’s witness religion is founded on unsubstantiated hubristic claims which are continually repeated until they are assumed by adherents to be a proven fact.. never is this more evident than when the beliefs of a jehovah’s witness are successfully challenged.

  the more compelling the evidence against them, the more they resort to repeating their convictions with a sense of insistence, as if they are chanting a mantra.. confirmation bias is prevalent in all religious ideologies, but particularly with jehovah’s witnesses.

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  Beth Sarim

  ''JWs have a disproportionate number of low income members. As you pointed out, it is because of their distaste for higher education (and education in general). The real problem is that they STILL think that they are smarter than everyone else.''

  I was watching 'Six Screens' a few weeks back. The host related how all these JW'S are now reaping what they sew and all these things are coming home to 'roost'. All these things are surfacing when it comes to more and more JW's who face poverty and what not and having to live with sons, daughters nieces and nephews due to high cost of living and poor wages.
  
  
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  No more public WT & Awake?

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.

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  Beth Sarim

  ''Oh What ??? no more magazine day??? ''

  It seems, evidently, apparently the Borg wants to distance itself from 'hardcopies' paper copies which can expose the Borg when its' claims fall flat on their face.

  The Borg can ,clearly, direct people to their website when the Borg maybe update things or sanitize what they say to distance themselves from foolhardy ideologies, perhaps.
  
  
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  No more public WT & Awake?

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.

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  Beth Sarim

  This is clearly not the same organization which I was baptized in around 1990.

  Completely unrecognizable, hierarchy, hypocritical, and just outright weird.

  Just astounding and baffling how they always knock education and universities and such and here they go out and rely on the educated for which they condemn their members from going to.
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  No more public WT & Awake?

  by mikeflood in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you guys noticed, this year 2023 no more public edition magazines...i wonder how they are gonna spin that fact.

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  Beth Sarim

  No more public WT and Awake, hey.

  I always prided myself back in the WTs heyday when the new copies came out. I always took pride and commented, boasted at the how amazing the 'print' was. And the artwork.

  Clearly, the Borg is transitioning itself from a 'printing company' to a ' real estate empire'.